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GemmaJF Admin Group Joined: 25 Jan 2003 No. of posts: 2090  View other posts by GemmaJF |
Posted: 05 Oct 2003 A description and images of the Marsh Frog Rana ridibunda may be found at:
http://www.herpetofauna.co.uk/marsh_frog.htm
® Lee Alan Fairclough/ONEWILDWORLD LTD 2003 Gemma Fairchild, Independent Ecological Consultant |
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chas Member Joined: 30 Jan 2005 No. of posts: 27  View other posts by chas |
Posted: 08 Apr 2005 Does anyone out there have any info. on the earliest dates of calling or spawning in the marsh frog -- even approx. (it's to assist some research)? Many Thanks!
Charles Snell |
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-LAF Senior Member Joined: 03 Apr 2003 No. of posts: 317 View other posts by -LAF |
Posted: 02 May 2005 While speaking to a friend from thelincs trust I was given an interesting account about the presence of green frogs at Tophill Low (E. Yorks reservoir, Yorkshire water). A couple of years ago he and Chris Mattison were at the reserve at a bird hide when Chris heard "Marsh Frogs" calling. They saw frogs calling in open water but the range was considerable. Chris was addament that the calls were marsh frogs. A quick trawl on the NBN gateway placed a record of Edible frogs only a few miles from this site. To me this strikes as a likely source of the frogs at Tophill (the area is well linked by drains). So... does anyone know of the historic origins of the edible frogs there? (not far from Hull, the site on NBN looks to be in the area formerly north humberside). I'm basing this on the assumption that the calls of the lessonae, ridibunda, esculenta complex are similar enough to be easily confused as I've only heard marsh frogs. Regards, Lee. Lee Fairclough |
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chas Member Joined: 30 Jan 2005 No. of posts: 27 View other posts by chas |
Posted: 02 May 2005 Lee, the calls are distinct - I expect Chris M. would have given a correct ID. There may be no connection then between the 2 populations. A marsh frog call can be heard at http://waterfrogs.csit.fsu.edu/PBhtmls/ridibunda.html#voice This site has the other water frog calls for comparison Charles Snell |
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-LAF Senior Member Joined: 03 Apr 2003 No. of posts: 317 View other posts by -LAF |
Posted: 03 May 2005 Thanks for the info Chas. I'll be in that neck of the woods this month so will visit Tophill and keep my ears open. Regards, Lee. Lee Fairclough |
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herpetologic2 Senior Member Joined: 15 Jun 2004 No. of posts: 1369  View other posts by herpetologic2 |
Posted: 08 May 2005
Julia Wycherley's papers in The BHS Bulletin and British Wildlife may help
Regards Jon Vice Chair of ARG UK - self employed consultant - visit ARG UK & Alresford Wildlife |
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soberhill Member Joined: 26 May 2005 No. of posts: 2 View other posts by soberhill |
Posted: 26 May 2005 Hello I don't know anything about frogs, although I started to do some research when I heard a very strange noise from the vicinity of our garden pond earlier this week. I checked in various sources and the sound seemed to be like the recording of a Marsh Frog, but from what I've read, it was not likely in this area (East Yorkshire). However, I stumbled across this message thread and it mentions TopHill Low Reservoir in East Yorkshire. That is only a couple of fields away from our property (maybe 1 mile in a straight line). I have managed to see it (at a distance of about 10 feet) and have a couple of photos, but still don't know what type of frog it is. If anyone can identify it from the picture, I'd be happy to forward it by email. [ Incidentally - how long is it likely to keep up this noise !!! ] Cherryl
Cherryl Smith Wilfholme, East Yorkshire |
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soberhill Member Joined: 26 May 2005 No. of posts: 2 View other posts by soberhill |
Posted: 21 Jun 2005 Kristi - Thanks for your informative reply, it much appreciated and has been very helpfull with advice as requested.
Cherryl Smith Wilfholme, East Yorkshire |
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GemmaJF Admin Group Joined: 25 Jan 2003 No. of posts: 2090 View other posts by GemmaJF |
Posted: 21 Jun 2005 Hi Cheryl, People often report marsh frogs as a noisey species, mail me the picture using the link 'contact admin' at the top of the page and I'll get an ID for you. PS Not sure what Kristi's problem is, but I hope they won't bother to rejoin RAUK Gemma Fairchild, Independent Ecological Consultant |
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Mick Member Joined: 10 Jun 2005 No. of posts: 184 View other posts by Mick |
Posted: 28 Jun 2005 I didn't realise, until recently joining this great site, that Marsh frogs are apparently in water bodies, reservoires, or whatever, around Heathrow airport. Seen as aviation is pretty much my only other big interest, besides wildlife & railways, i wouldn't mind knowing which is possibly the best populated Heathrow site to go & take a little look on my next visit to Heathrow. Is it around about now that Marsh frogs in this country spawn, & if so, about when are they froglets? On Med' holidays i love the noisy racket of frogs such as Marsh frogs. I presume at places like Heathrow they're likely to be in full chorus during this hot weather, are they? |
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rhysrkid Senior Member Joined: 14 Nov 2003 No. of posts: 98  View other posts by rhysrkid |
Posted: 29 Jun 2005 Mick Marsh frog are still calling at the moment at Heathrow but are starting to calm down now, although the recent rain has brought on a new bout of activity today. There are various sites which we own and manage which support marsh frog but the majority are closed access. However there is one site in particular where they are common and which is open to the public. The site is called Two Bridges Farm Conservation Site and is located off Hatton Rd where the road crosses the twin rivers. On site there is a well established old farm pond which has good numbers of MF. Also this is an excellent site for common toad in the spring. Happy hunting! Rhys |
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Mick Member Joined: 10 Jun 2005 No. of posts: 184 View other posts by Mick |
Posted: 29 Jun 2005 Thanks rhysrkid, i'll maybe check that accessible site out when i next - hopefully soon - nip down to Heathrow. I presume that would be about the closest site to me here in Banbury, north oxfordshire? Anyway, i look forward to that.  |
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Martingr Member Joined: 13 Jun 2006 No. of posts: 3 View other posts by Martingr |
Posted: 13 Jun 2006 I have just picked up on this site. It follows our finding of Marsh Frogs at a couple of ponds near us. We found them last year and again this year. During the past year the frogs seem to have moved about 1km to take up residence in the new site which is about 50 m from our house. We think this is a genuine new record for this nearby pond because we watch this pond closely and would have heard the frogs in previous years if they had been present. We are in south Worcestershire close to the border with Gloucestershire. My questions are: 1. How rapidly do marsh frogs spread? Would a 1km jump between ponds in a year be typical? 2. Is there a current UK distrubution map for this species? the forum articles mention sites in south east England and Yorkshire but are there any other records for the West Midlands? |
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Caleb Forum Coordinator Joined: 17 Feb 2003 No. of posts: 448 View other posts by Caleb |
Posted: 13 Jun 2006 The NBN map for marsh frog does show one record for Worcestershire... |
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Martingr Member Joined: 13 Jun 2006 No. of posts: 3 View other posts by Martingr |
Posted: 13 Jun 2006 Many thanks for the distribution information. We are in SP03 and a look at the map showing a single 10km square conatining Marsh Frogs in the west Midlands seems to show a site that is north and possibly east of us. |
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Martingr Member Joined: 13 Jun 2006 No. of posts: 3 View other posts by Martingr |
Posted: 13 Jun 2006 I have tracked down the Worcestershire marsh frog record to a site about 30 km north west of our location in SP03 . So what is the status of my new record? How do I get it into an official data base? |
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Caleb Forum Coordinator Joined: 17 Feb 2003 No. of posts: 448 View other posts by Caleb |
Posted: 14 Jun 2006 Best way would be to contact your local herp recorder- details will be here: http://www.arg-uk.org.uk/contacts.htm |
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Matt Harris Senior Member Joined: 03 Jun 2003 No. of posts: 196 View other posts by Matt Harris |
Posted: 29 Jun 2006 Marsh? frogs heard calling in Somerset south of the Mendips just west of Glastonbury. Large numbers heard calling and heads seen bobbing up on 31st May this year. Are there any other records of marsh/edible frogs in this general area? (none show up on NBN) Matt Gwent Amphibian and Reptile Group (GARG) |
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Caleb Forum Coordinator Joined: 17 Feb 2003 No. of posts: 448 View other posts by Caleb |
Posted: 29 Jun 2006 I was sent a photo of a marsh/edible frog from Wells a couple of years ago. I think the Herpetological Journal paper on distinguishing species by their calls mentioned a colony in the Somerset Levels. |
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lalchitri Senior Member Joined: 06 Jun 2006 No. of posts: 132  View other posts by lalchitri |
Posted: 13 Aug 2006 [QUOTE=rhysrkid] Mick Marsh frog are still calling at the moment at Heathrow but are starting to calm down now, although the recent rain has brought on a new bout of activity today. There are various sites which we own and manage which support marsh frog but the majority are closed access. However there is one site in particular where they are common and which is open to the public. The site is called Two Bridges Farm Conservation Site and is located off Hatton Rd where the road crosses the twin rivers. On site there is a well established old farm pond which has good numbers of MF. Also this is an excellent site for common toad in the spring. Happy hunting! [/QUOTE]visited that pond today, as its local to me. sad to say it was completely dried up with no signs of life at all. previously visited it in may, when MF's and newts were present in good numbers. same goes for a large pond in uxbribge which has a good population of CF's, toads and GCN's - when i was there last week it was also as dry as a bone. Reformed Teetotaller |
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